I recently returned from a vacation to Florida. Being the bargain hunter I am, I shopped around for cheap airline tickets using a couple of tricks. First, I was willing to fly out of whatever airport was cheapest, at whatever time was cheapest. My dates were also somewhat flexible. Flying in the middle of the week, as opposed to a weekend, is generally cheapest, so I preferred two Wednesday flights. Next, I checked prices about a week or two prior to my expected travel date, although savings are usually best given one to three weeks notice.
So considering those basic points, I started seeking price quotes from the well-known bargain travel sites: Expedia.com, Orbitz.com, Priceline.com, and Travelocity.com. I entered my information identically across all four sites, and compared their prices. Continental Airlines and American Airlines were consistently less expensive than other airlines across those four sites. All four sites gave approximately equal quotes for the same route, which was cheapest when flying from LaGuardia airport in New York to Palm Beach International airport in West Palm Beach, Florida. The total cost, as advertised by all four sites, was approximately $134 to $165 before taxes and fees for the roundtrip, non-stop airfare – not bad in the first place.
On another note, I was to receive an additional 6% rebate on the entire transaction. First, Discover Card’s “Get More” cash-back promotion was advertising 5% cash-back on travel charges such as airfare, train tickets, hotel stays, and rental cars. The other 1% was through my Upromise account. Upromise is a brand loyalty program that gives you a miniscule rebate, typically 2% or less, when you buy certain things. Upromise makes money because retailers pay to be Upromise branded, and those vendors make up the miniscule amount paid to you since you are more likely to buy more of their typically over-priced merchandise. I essentially abuse Upromise by not using it myself – for example, while I have my own grocery card and credit card registered with Upromise, my family shares my grocery card account and thereby generates rebates unknowingly as they buy things the way they normally would. In any event, Priceline.com is a Upromise vendor and so I logged into my Upromise account, which then led me to Priceline.com.
And such was the next trick up my sleeve: Priceline.com’s “Name your own price” system. Priceline.com advertises that you can save between 20 and 40% off regular price airfare if you name your own price. So I took the $134 quote, the lowest advertised elsewhere, subtracted an additional 20%, and entered in a price of $108. Note that I could have possibly saved more, but considering that other “bargain” sites were making the offers they were, I considered it fair to pay $54 per direction without trying to save more (although I don’t know if I could have saved more).
Within two minutes, Priceline.com accepted my offer and emailed me a confirmation. I would be flying on American Airlines, and after taxes and fees I paid approximately $135. My flights in both direction were on-time, relaxing, and comfortable. A rather good looking flight attendant at least ten years my senior gave me her phone number in New York, free drinks and M&Ms – so no complaints on that flight. Interestingly, she began conversing with me because she said it was “strange” that I would be seated where I was – at the tail of the plane, next to the engine, in a row by myself, in an otherwise fully packed aircraft, next to her flight attendant’s seat. Anyway, the return flight was less eventful but also comfortable. All-in-all, the flight portion of my experience with Priceline.com was positive. My flight attendant friend was shocked about the price I paid commenting, “We [American Airlines] are probably losing money on that.”
But in this joke, the positive airfare experience is only the setting of the stage for the punch line. After I received my email confirmation from Priceline.com that my offer was accepted, I was directed to return to Priceline.com to complete my transaction. After completing the steps, I was presented with other related offers: discount hotel reservations and car rentals. I didn’t need either since I was visiting friends, who had ample space to put me up for the week. However, since I had a separate experience renting a car only two weeks earlier, I decided to see how much Priceline.com would rent me a car for.
I was shocked when I was offered a price of $19 per day for a Premium vehicle – a “Crown Victoria or similar” according to Priceline.com. The terms clearly stated that an under 25 fee would apply. I decided that for the $19 a day, a rental car would be fun to tool around in, and considering the cheap airfare, it was within my budget for the trip. I decided to accept their offer, and I was given a receipt on which $65 in “fees” were added, however, there was no itemization of fees. The car rental agency was National Car Rental, and the total was $204. So given that the fee amounted to almost 50% of the cost of the vehicle, I figured the under 25 fee was assessed here. Without an itemized receipt, however, it was impossible for me to ascertain that there was yet another fee waiting for me. But this is also not the only surprise that was waiting.
After booking my “Premium” vehicle with National Car Rental, knowing that different companies use different fleets of vehicles, I called National Car Rental to determine if they indeed had Ford Crown Victorias in their fleet. As an aside, if you’ve never driven a “police car”, consider trying it sometime. I guarantee you’ll notice a significant increase in the patience and prudence of other drivers – a sad testimonial to the effect that the thought of surveillance has on human behavior. Anyway, the National Car Rental agent said that they used GM vehicles typically, but that a “Premium” vehicle meant either a Buick LeSabre, Buick Lucerne, Dodge Magnum, or Dodge Charger. Obviously, I wanted the Dodge Charger, even if it only had a 6-cylinder engine.
Upon arrival in West Palm Beach, I marched excitedly to the National Car Rental counter. The agent behind the counter was friendly, and as much as I would have loved to spew obscenities at him for the chaos that was about to ensue, he was only doing his job and was trying earnestly to keep me satisfied. So what happened, exactly?
First, the Dodge Magnum and Dodge Charger were not available at all. Not just at that location, they were virtually not available at all. The agent said they come in “sometimes” which, based on his squinting and perseverate deep breath, I took to mean “almost never”. I asked what was available in the Premium class, and he advised me that only the Buick LeSabre and Buick Lucerne were available. Granted, they’re “full size” cars but calling either a premium vehicle in the first place is a bit of a stretch, in my opinion. I asked what other vehicles were available in other classes, and let him know I’d be willing to pay extra for the next class up. With a great sense of futility, he tapped the keys on his computer terminal to check, finding a Cadillac CTS and Hummer H3, both for an additional $20 or so per day, which would have doubled the price I was paying. In response, imagine me making a puckered face of dissatisfaction. I agreed to take the Buick Lucerne.
“Alright,” he said, “now if you can just sign here.” Drawing my eyes to the signature box, I then looked around, grabbed a pen nearby on the counter, and prepared to put my mark on the page. My eyes grew wide with shock as I noticed the paper was not the rental agreement – it was an invoice. “This says I owe you almost $300,” I pointed out. “Oh yes, that’s what it says you owe in the computer.” I returned, “What for? I pre-paid through Priceline.com.” The agent then explained, “Yes, but you’re under 25, and there is a $39 per day fee, plus tax, for underage renters.” He advised me to call Priceline.com with questions, citing that the reservation was made through them.
Priceline.com’s customer service was completely useless in resolving this issue. Not only did they insist that I had not paid an under 25 fee, they admitted that, “[I] did pay taxes and fees, but those fees couldn’t be broken down individually.” Priceline.com’s customer service agents repeatedly insisted that there was nothing they could do – no full refund, no prorated refund, no credit for another time. I asked if they were ever able to help people, and they said yes. I asked, for future reference, what situation would warrant a refund or credit – and the agent refused to give a square answer! Seems like it’s not much of a service to customers to have customer service agents that are only there to tell you, “Sorry, there’s nothing we can do!”
I might be crazy, but when a fee is literally twice the advertised price, it’s not much of a fee anymore – it’s a big freaking difference. It’s false advertising, it’s deceptive, it’s price gouging, and it’s probably very profitable.
After all, if I really needed a rental car, there’s a good chance I’d accept the gouged price upon arrival. How would you leave the airport without your ground transportation? Fortunately I had my friends to call and ask for a ride. They were working at the time, but were willing to pick me up after their shift. So after waiting at the airport like Tom Hanks in a short version of “The Terminal“, I was out of the airport and started a fun week of relaxing and taking in the weirdness that is the state of Florida.
There was yet another surprise waiting for me, though. I attempted to use my Discover Card in a liquor store in Port Saint Lucie, and was declined on a $9 transaction! When I called Discover, their automated system advised me that my available credit was $0, thanks to guess who – National Car Rental who put the $295 charge to my credit card, maxing it out completely, despite that I refused to sign the invoice or take receipt of the car. This charge was reversed by National Car Rental when I advised them that I hadn’t signed the invoice and had declined the rental as a result of the fee in the first place. When National Car Rental was issuing this refund, they said they couldn’t refund the original $204 charge because I booked it through Priceline.com, and so I’d have to deal with them. “Well, isn’t Priceline.com going to pay you that $204,” I asked. “Only if you actually take the car,” the National agent said. He did say, however, that if I had booked the rental directly that they would have refunded me fully – a claim I can’t disprove but that my gut says is probably untrue based on the whole experience.
But since Priceline.com also refused to issue me a refund for the rental car service which was never rendered to me, so I’ve had no choice but to dispute the charge through Discover Card. I may get my money back, I may not.
Priceline.com, and National Car Rental: if you decide you want to give me a refund after all, I’ll gladly take it, and update this story accordingly to let readers know that you may not be as bad as you’ve been to me. But based on your inability to do anything for me, and your lack of willingness to show that you could do anything for me in the first place, especially when I was in a jam, I really doubt that will happen. One of the Priceline.com agents even went so far as to say it was “my fault” and that he’d bet that I’d “read the terms more carefully next time” – despite that I had read the terms and believed to be complying with them in good faith.
You can be sure I’ll never use your car rental services again. And if at least one reader here decides not to use your services, I’ll be satisfied. The $204 you defrauded from me may ultimately be yours to keep, but the sales you may lose are hopefully worth far more.
In summary: Priceline.com’s cheap airfare is enticing, but decline their tie-in offers unless you like being royally screwed and stuck at an airport for hours with $500 charged to your credit card for services never received. As for National Car Rental, I hope that if you use them that you like Buicks, but don’t believe the hype about getting something actually desirable like a Dodge Charger.
UPDATE - 04/03/2007: Discover Card finally resolved their investigation into this charge. They ruled in my favor, and issued me a refund for the full $206.30 in dispute! The text of my dispute letter surrounded the use of “taxes and fees” in the Priceline.com agreement, which implied that the total I was charged originally should have included “all taxes and fees”. Since they tried to slap a $400 fee on top of the price they quoted me, Discover agreed that the total did not include all taxes and fees, and subsequently, that I was not liable for that charge! Eat that, Priceline. It pays to Discover! (R) (Note I am not affiliated with Discover).







13 responses so far ↓
1 Keizo // Jan 24, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Renting cars sucks. Maybe try a ZipCar?
I haven’t used it yet, but I keep hearing about http://www.kayak.com for flights.
2 Zach M. // Jan 25, 2007 at 7:28 am
Just contest the charges with your cc, you’ll get your money back.
3 RudyD // Mar 4, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Zach, have you had something similar happen to you? Are you saying you got your money back, and if so, from who—the cc co. or Priceline? I’m trying to get a dispute filed with my cc co. right now over a Priceline car rental. They gave me the wrong car type! I was surprised that my offer had been accepted until I read on down in the email that, instead of the SUV I had requested, I was given/won a mid-size. I immediately, within minutes, called Priceline and complained, told them I did not want and could not use the mid-size, needed the SUV I requested. They told me that Alamo, the rental car co., had their SUVs under mid-size type. I knew that was wrong, wrong, wrong. Priceline gave me Alamo’s 800# to call & verify this. I immediately called them and was told NO, that was not true and they’d had this problem with Priceline before. But they wouldn’t do anything about it either. Had to be Priceline to initiate any changes. I then called my cc co. (all this within about 30 minutes of receiving Priceline’s email) and they said since the transaction was showing as “pending” they couldn’t do anything, but as soon as it showed as a transaction I could dispute it. I’ve called 3 different numbers today (Sunday, 3-4-07) before finally being told the disputes area is not open on Sunday. So now I have to try again tomorrow to file a dispute with my credit card company. I did send a complaint email to Priceline and they emailed back that they could no do anything for me. Surprise, surprise! I don’t need a vehicle for another 2 months; it’s not like they are going to lose money by cancelling this transaction and refunding my money; or Alamo could work something out with getting the vehicle I had asked for.
This whole thing just has me sick at my stomach. Never thought something like this would happen. I’ve used Priceline in the past for airline tickets, a hotel once, and rental vehicles. Never had a problem before. But once burned, I doubt I’ll even look at Priceline’s site ever again.
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5 Nikol // Jan 31, 2008 at 1:27 am
Priceline sold me a hotel room that was outside of the city I requested.
I’ve been to Palm Springs and know it is a small city, so it didn’t matter what part of town my hotel was in. When I arrived to Palm Springs I was told by an Embassy Suites Rep that I was nowhere near the address I had on my reservation email. The town they booked my room in was “down the highway 20 miles. ”
I was certain I’d asked for a 3 star room in Palm Springs. When I got back home I revisited the website. Their site said/says “Choose more than one area in Palm Springs, CA to improve your chances.” I know Palm Springs is a small city and I couldn’t be far from dowtown if I chose any of the national chain hotels. So, of course, I chose the one that said “best deal” after it.
It was a $70 cab ride to Palm Springs from this hotel (plus tip, and wasted time, of course). We had dinner reservations at one of Palm Springs finest restaurants. but the late arrival and holdups made us very late for dinner. Instead of the romantic dinner I had planned for my girlfriend’s Birthday, we ended up at the only place that was still serving food near our hotel. Just to give you an idea of how that went over, I’ll tell you the name of the joint- “The Beer Hunter.”
Happy Birthday, Honey.
6 Matthew // Feb 16, 2008 at 12:42 am
You are all stupid. I work for priceline and no, we do not screw you over. The last comment is really funny becasue we booked you in the Palm Springs area. When you do name your own price reservations on priceline you cannot pick a city. You pick an area. This area is a red shadded region on a paper. I am sorry your stupid ass cannot read maps. Your hotels are always within this shadded region. Please read more and stop calling so much. You are always wrong and you only waste my time and yours. Your reservations are non changeable, non cancelable, and non-refundable. That is stated to you in the contract which you all refuse to read. Also stop calling and saying you are never going to use priceline again because no one cares. And remember…the more you make us angry by bitching at is…the more damage we can do. Remember…we have your credit card numbers, expiration dates, adress, phone numbers, names, and a lot of other information about you. Don’t be suprised if we do not end up at your doorstep.
[Editor’s note: It’s very unlikely that this toolbag actually works for Priceline. And even if he did, that just goes to show you what deceiving pricks they are — they think you’re an idiot and deserve to be subject to credit card fraud.]
7 Matthew // Feb 17, 2008 at 11:24 pm
I actually do work for Priceline.com. And we do think you are idiots. Because you really are.
8 David // Feb 24, 2008 at 9:24 am
I just booked a hotel that priceline claimed is a 4-star hotel. The hotel they picked is literally not even a 2 star hotel. I truly believe they are not a good choice for any traveller. I also believe that the guy claiming to work for priceline is for real! Pretty frightening that a Priceline employee threatens to come after a disgruntled client by saying “We have your address from your credit card info” That info needs to be forwarded to the police.
[Editor’s reply: But come on, their commercials are so catchy, surely their customer service is as good as their marketing, right? Not.]
9 Lindsay // Mar 18, 2008 at 11:10 am
Matthew seriously, if you do work for Priceline you are putting your job at risk. If I found out one of my employees did what you just did on here, I’d fire you on the spot. You are an embarassment to your employer.
10 julie // Mar 20, 2008 at 11:25 am
I used to be a fan of priceline. But lately they have disappointed me terribly to the point of anguish
F**K priceline. They made me pay the full amount of $400 for the hotel stay that I didn’t even bid for because of a f**King system glitch. I hate them and won’t ever use them again.
11 Another Priceline Victim // May 15, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I used to be a fan of Priceline as well. They have become more predatory and deceptive in their bidding process.
Beware of their “Name Your Own Price” feature. It’s rigged to fool and defraud you. So read the finest of fine prints.
If anyone at Priceline does read this, shame on you for trying to justify predatory and deceptive sales tactics. It will never help you survive as a company and it will always lose you customers. I will never use the site again. I’ll tell my employer, my husband’s employer and everyone we’re associated with about their pernicious practices and once my situation is resolved with the help of my credit card company, I’ll contact every media outlet I know as well as William Shattner to let them know what Priceline is doing. I’m sure Mr. Shattner would not want his name to continue to be associated with this type of organization, despite the obvious revenue.
12 Link // Jun 11, 2008 at 6:40 am
Once upon a time Priceline truly had good deals for hotel, flight, etc. Nowadays other sites offer better flight deals, the hotel price isn’t that competitive most of the time, and the car rental is probably going to follow that trend.
This is why I only rented a car once when I was under 25 - the exorbitant fee.
13 Stephen // Jul 7, 2008 at 11:13 am
I feel bad for you guys. However, most of the complaints are due to lack of knowledge of Priceline and not knowing how to get the best deal. Priceline IS a risk. That is clear by their terms and conditions … however it is a risk I am willing to take to save nearly 70% off hotel prices nearly every time I use it.
Get informed:
biddingfortravel.com
betterbidding.com
If Priceline truly quotes you a price that turned out to be different in the end … then that sucks for them. However, what part of “no refunds” don’t you understand. Your bid is FINAL. Unless they don’t deliver exactly what they promised you (and they don’t promise much), then you really are at fault. In my experience all fees are stated BEFORE you bid … so you know exactly how much the final price will be. In the case of the over age fee, I would probably have been upset as well … but that’s almost like expecting parking to be included when you rent a hotel through priceline. It’s just not the way it is.
While you guys are swearing off Priceline for life, I’ll be thanking them as I stay in my downtown Toronto hotel for $54 a night vs. the going rate of nearly $250. Even if I did make a mistake (which I most likely won’t because I’m informed) … saving that kind of money on my stays make the odd mistake (on my part) quite acceptable.
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